2006-08-22 [Ishje]: ahh I like this wiki...it sounds like great idea's :D

2006-08-22 [Elthia]: About 12 Euros then, I think...

2006-08-22 [Gwenn*]: Sure you don't have to pay to the police to play music, but if we play music wich isn't composed by us, I know in France we have to pay something to the "SACEM", that's the autor and compositor's society

2006-08-22 [sequeena_rae]: About 7 euros xD

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: no it's not.. and if we're let's say 300 from et, if we're lucky.. and 200 "freinds" if not more. then that's 5 000 dollars.. 50 000 kr.. that is, hopefully, more than anough, i've never rented a field before though--

2006-08-22 [raza]: If it's 10 dollars, it's less in euros...

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: not france then:P jk.. it might be like that other places as well..

2006-08-22 [Elthia]: Well, 10 dollars is 60 kr and 12 Euros is 100 kr ;)

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Okay, who would get a soundssystem and generator out to a field somewhere? O_o that costs quite a lot to hire, and I think since we all have pretty different music taste it wouldn't work that well, would we hire a DJ or what?

2006-08-22 [sequeena_rae]: This is where portable CD players and batteries come in :P

2006-08-22 [Gwenn*]: I've ever organised things where we used to pay the SACEM, I can ask to some of my friends to know how much we must pay...

2006-08-22 [Zab]: But france is expencive to stay..x) *payed 49€ for a breakfast consisting of four slices of bread and a few different types of ham there once* No offense raza :P

2006-08-22 [raza]: YEs so euros is more than dollars... so if it's ten dollars... it's less in euros... And for the generator etc etc, it depends of the numebr we are... Mmh, and we must find someone really near of the place because travellin gwith a huuuuuuuge generator... but portable Cd players and batteries are ok too don't you think?

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: No need to contact anyone about french laws yet, we can check those thing after we choose the location. And we talked about talking to the police, if we're going to use portable CD players we wont need to contact anyone ahead.

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: hehe.. yes.. well i still think sweden is best.. but that's just me.. and mattias i have no idea.. but i dont think we could afford a dj.. but i supose we could try to get some kinda aragment.. i donno.. we can even make ppl write fav bands on a list.. there's many ways.. though they'll all cost..

2006-08-22 [raza]: yes it's true. and france is too far for everybody. (except me but...) yes true again... :)

2006-08-22 [Zab]: ..or we force everybody to come to the free rixfm festival..XD

2006-08-22 [sequeena_rae]: Rixfm rock xD

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: Belgium is nice this time of year, or so I hear... :D

2006-08-22 [Gwenn*]: I said nothing about doing this in France, it was just to help, there is surely an organism like SACEM in other countries, and I wanted to estimate how much it can cost... And you don't good place to have a good breakfast [Zab] XD

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Favourite bands? O_O Couldn't we just go to a festival then? Roskilde isn't too expensive, and big enough for all of us. We can go early in the warmup, get a few days together, then I can be drunk all through the festival ^_^

2006-08-22 [raza]: lol...
Hello Elegy... :) Belgium is further than AMsterdam for people of sweden...

2006-08-22 [Zab]: *lmao* (rixfm) It's held in Helsingborg too I think, then everybody could camp at my place and..eh.. we'll find some way to get them to the bustation that's about 7-8km from my house..x) and back to Helsingborg..

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: Raza: But not for me! =P

2006-08-22 [sequeena_rae]: You all listen to different music to me ;-; *thinks I'm the only British person here* XD

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: Muff! im so glad to see you! i've missed you!!^^ and i know Gwenn*, thanks, you'd have to exuse the other=P they'r getting kinda worked up at times;)

2006-08-22 [raza]: lol sure not for me too... Belgium is nearer for me too...

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: Missed you too ^_^

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: i didnt think of trying to get the bands mattias, rather the albums..

2006-08-22 [Zab]: The breakfast wasn't even good [Gwenn*] XD But generally the food there was nice :3

2006-08-22 [Gwenn*]: OK

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: maybe we could just move it up to finmark.. it's sure is a lot of field up there.. and noone will mind the music cuz they'r miles away:P

2006-08-22 [raza]: LoL...

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: And I have family there, so I can get us food! :3

2006-08-22 [Zab]: But I liked the idea of having it at a festival, like Roskilde..O_o

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Roskilde isn't held in Helsingborg O_O It's outside of Copenhaven.

2006-08-22 [Zab]: I was talking about rixfm festival, Pen:P

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yeah.. but the enterance there costs like a lot.. so.. pooorpooooooooor ppl from far away who g2 pay a lot just to get there..

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: (read: Elegy)

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: isnt that like.. now?

2006-08-22 [Zab]: ..how much is it really? *havn't been there* Can't be too much?

There is a next year:P

2006-08-22 [raza]: Food for 50 people? sure?
In a festival? it would be difficult, because a festival is not the same... and it must be specific... A festival will compicate the thing, because it's organised and we'll have to organise in function of this festival.. w could try that but not for the first meeting. that would be too difficult.

2006-08-22 [Zab]: But..if everyone had red t-shirts with Elftown on them we'd find each other..XD

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: i think it's 2500.. so.. 250 dollars.. so there.. im nice when im demanding that we demand enterance..=P

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: .. i dont look good in red.. =P

2006-08-22 [Zab]: oh..that much..I won't go..>___>

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Roskilde doesn't cost that much considering the bands that come there, and the ammount of bands, and ALL the people O_O but about 200 $ I would think.

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: It's not 2500, please, it was like 1800 SEK I think.

2006-08-22 [raza]: No red T shirt for every one is not enough. and we are not there to have a festival but to meet us... believe me, a festival it's too complicate for a first project...

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: it's way to much.. and the point of a ET gathering would be the bands, though i know you really wanna go there and look at all the freeky hot ladys mattias:P

2006-08-22 [Zab]: Too much for me *poor* :P tho maybe if I actually get a work..>_>

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: well, it's expensive anyway..

2006-08-22 [raza]: oh if we must pay the festival it's really too much... (i think but you can think other and be rich. :p)

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: But it's like 4 days warmup, before the music starts, isn't that enough to get to know eachother?

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: i supose.. but it's still the matter of money..

2006-08-22 [Zab]: Still too expencive for me:P

2006-08-22 [Zab]: And I think I'll leave now..bye..

2006-08-22 [raza]: Bye zab!

2006-08-22 [Zab]: Bye. :)

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: but anyways.. there's 12 on the list.. that's far from anough.. i've writen msg to all my relations here.. so.. well, i would spam ppl, if that wasnt against the rules, but it is.. so, we need more friendly ways of telling ppl.. ideas?

2006-08-22 [Zab]: A good banner and if everyone write a link in their diarys:P (not tired enough to sleep)

2006-08-22 [Gwenn*]: Is it possible to create an announce on the Main Street? Like people do for contest...

2006-08-22 [raza]: Diary it's already done. we can put a message in the forum of advertising, but personaly i never look at it...

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: =P i know.. yume said she'd make a banner.. and links would be great! *hinthint*

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: i supose.. but then we'd have to tell hedda about it aqnd im not sure he'd go along with all of this.. at least now that we're so few..

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Make the page look good firstly, then people will get a good impression of it and join, it's a big idea so it have to look rather planned.

2006-08-22 [raza]: Yes yes... we must have help of ET crew that would be great.

2006-08-22 [Zab]: *could sneak an advertisement up on mainstreet* x) But I'd get problem for it:P
I can try making a banner too..

Someone can nominate it when wiki nominations opens again, in some week :) But it would take a month before it came up even if you do..I'm sure it would be chosen tho :)

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: The pink, the smiley faces and the comment about 'very scary boss' makes the whole thing seem unprofessional.

2006-08-22 [raza]: i agree [Elegy - gone] for pink and very scary boss... smiley are ok don't you think?

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Yes, let's tidy the page up first, but it's getting late, atleast for me and for a lot of the european people, so let's continue this tommorow.

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yeah.. and my spelling is very far from being agreabule so.. yeh yeah i get the point elegy..*pouts* the pink will be gone......='(

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: I can take a look at it tomorrow, if you want?

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: totaly agree, it's getting late..

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yes.. *blink blink* i'd really love that.. *huggles*

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: I second Muff's idea, she's the master when it comes to wikis ^_^

2006-08-22 [Elegy - gone]: Am not =P but now I'm going to bed, g'night!

2006-08-22 [raza]: Good night Elegy!

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: fine.. but im still the boss.. not very scary perhaps but still boss^^

2006-08-22 [raza]: Lol... ^^

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Aww, a female boss, how cute ^_^

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: im not cute!! infact im very scary^^

2006-08-22 [Zab]: XD

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: You're right, you're not cute at all. ^_^

You really just gave me that one, can't blame me for that =P

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: ok then.. ill be cute.. but only for today^^

2006-08-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: lol...

2006-08-22 [Zab]:
I took the freedom to make a banner :P

2006-08-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: really nice zab^^

2006-08-22 [raza]: great job Zab! :)

2006-08-22 [Zab]: *beams* Thanks. ^_^

2006-08-22 [raza]: you're welcome...

2006-08-22 [Gwenn*]: cool!

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yeah.. it's wonderfull!!

2006-08-22 [Zab]:
The first one was to have as a heading for the wiki perhaps? And one for houses..

2006-08-22 [raza]: i take it.

2006-08-22 [Zab]: And all images used are copyrighted to me, so don't worry ;) And thanks again:P

2006-08-22 [Little Red Ridinghood]: ^^ i'll take it tomorrow im so tierd im colapsing so, se ya all tomorrow!!

2006-08-22 [Zab]: Night! :)

2006-08-22 [raza]: see you!

2006-08-22 [raza]: i'm going to see you all!

2006-08-22 [Zab]: ok..O_o.. x) *hugs

2006-08-22 [spincrus]: Very good idea. I would also think about a grand meeting at a very central location in the EU, and maybe a sister meeting in the states at a central location (although it's a bit hard to do that in the states). If we meet in like Berlin or Vienna or something, I might be able to come :P

2006-08-22 [spincrus]: Looking at the world map on the mainstreet, I think you can't go as central as Vienna.

2006-08-22 [Elmiira]: let's go to take a tour trip in linköping to see elftron :P

2006-08-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: that's a really good idea elmiira^^

2006-08-22 [spincrus]: I've always wanted to see Sweden! It's actually the season to go see Sweden actually :P Otherwise it'd be too cold :P

2006-08-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: it's never cold in sweden.....

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: The season was over a couple of weeks ago, now it's getting colder by the day. But why not visit Sweden during the winter, that's when I find it most beutiful.

2006-08-22 [Penfalathion]: Never? xD Maybe not down in Skåne =P But in northern Småland ^_^

2006-08-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: pen are right listen to him^^

2006-08-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: cool... we nearly never get snow ether.....

2006-08-22 [spincrus]: it's never cold in sweden.....

you have to pay me a million bucks for me to believe in that :P

2006-08-22 [Zab]: Come here! XD

2006-08-22 [Ghost the Hybrid]: well not where i live....

2006-08-22 [Paul Doyle]: If I had the time and money (neither of which I have, currently :/) I would so love to participate in one of these gatherings ^_^

2006-08-22 [spincrus]: It's understandable though pauly. A trip from the US to Europe isn't cheap and takes at least one day of ride on an airplane, whereas I can just jump on a train and be in Berlin in half a day :D

2006-08-23 [Skydancer]: I do not thing there is anyone on Elftown that is really anywhere close to here...

2006-08-23 [spincrus]: "Here" meaning...?

2006-08-23 [Paul Doyle]: Hmm, how to get there from here (across the Atlantic, etc etc etc) to there in record time, without paranoid airport security searches. Turning into a dragon and flying there is not an option, so . . . . *flips open cellphone* . . . "Beam me up, Scotty!" :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

2006-08-23 [spincrus]: *Thinks that Pauly needs to wait for about another 50 years for a train tunnel being built between NYC and London under the Atlantic Ocean :P*

2006-08-23 [Skydancer]: Asheville, North Carolina, USA, Planet Earth, 56th Millenium.. ooooooooohhh, that is the problem.. all of you are long dead... :D

2006-08-23 [spincrus]: Look who is talking! The eldest among us :D

2006-08-23 [Skydancer]: Heheheh.. I knew I should have given that Tardis back when I found it.. :)

2006-08-23 [Paz]: I might be able to do this if it's summer '09 :D I'm planning to go to Europe that year anyways! *watches*

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: i supose there should be two gatherings, but i dont think i can plan a gathering in the usa from my home in norway, im not ritch either and if i did my phone bills would most lightly reatch extreeme levels.. BTW, the bannes zab made for us is now awalebule here--->Elftown Gathering Banners and please remember to join and do the poll.. bah..

2006-08-23 [Paz]: Doesn't matter the location, even if it was in the US I would still have to try to get to it ;) Even places like New York are far off (5 hours but hey).

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yeah.. well, it's possebule for someone who lives in usa to do it, but, i wont.. sorry.. though the europa gathering is still on..;)

2006-08-23 [Paz]: lol, go for it in europe :P I'll try to get there!

2006-08-23 [EmeraldGrizzly]: Where in Europe will it be and when please?

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: that's not final yet.. but you can go to Elftown Gathering FAQ and it should have the anwsers there..

2006-08-23 [Zab]: Elftowners Meet <--- might be interesting to know off?

2006-08-23 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i got a question!!!! but i'll read the faq before i ask it^^

2006-08-23 [Zab]: Fixed the typo to the banners link. :)

2006-08-23 [Ghost the Hybrid]: you listened to meblack widow^^ cool^^

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: i ser dont get anything to day.. im quite ill today so be nice..=P

2006-08-23 [Zab]: Aww! *gives booze so the illness gets drunk and goes away* :3

2006-08-23 [Corazie]: I've already met up with quite a few people from here... For the North of England and South of Scotland, can I suggest Newcastle, England?

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yes! that's a wonderfull idea! add it up please!!?

2006-08-23 [Ghost the Hybrid]: i'd love to go to GB to meat elftown members^^

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: juppjupp^^ i'd love to go to newcastle^^

2006-08-23 [Ghost the Hybrid]: we can have a poll when we have enough sugestions^^

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yupp.. and more ppl.. i watched the wiki but they only listed who already met someone from et.. this is a bitt bigger dont you think?

2006-08-23 [Zab]: Yes, but we could link to them and maybe they're interested in meeting again if there comes a gathering? :P

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yeah.. i supose.. but we should get some more ppl before we do anything really...

2006-08-23 [Zab]: But we can't get more people if we don't advertise:P

2006-08-23 [raza]: true.

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: very true.. but we should advetise unless hedda knows about us and.. it's a bit to early.. dont you think? i do=P

2006-08-23 [Zab]: errr...why does Hedda have to know and accept that we're here? before we advertize? O_o

2006-08-23 [raza]: mmh, i think [Hedda] must be warn because we do that under a banner where it's written elftown. so... but we should warn him now don't you think?

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: i donno... im just afrade his gonna say no.. i do think that the best thing we can do at this time is to advertise to our friends.. and ask them to tell on..

2006-08-23 [Zab]: Weeeelll.. once we've fixed the details and have a plan that works, made up preliminary dates etc we can inform him. But I don't really get how he should have any option to disagree that people here meet, it's not like it's on his or Elftowns responsibility..O_o

2006-08-23 [raza]: mmh you think he woudl say no? mmh... if it's well organized, it would be ok.

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: no.. but we couldnt call it elftown gathering and it would be wonderfull if we could convinse him to come to.. i dont think we should try to get him posetive to this before we've solved some of the prob like were, and before we do that we need more members..

2006-08-23 [raza]: yes true. :) so we need advertising... ^^

2006-08-23 [Zab]: That's a later problem, once people are interested and stuff are decided, we can talk with him. And if he doesn't allow us to call it an elftown gathering, we'll simply call it something else, it's still the same thing :)

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: yapps.. if you got any wikies that you yourself own you can tell ppl about it there.. but most wikies forbid advetrisment, so we shouldt do it if the wiki isnt own by the person putting up the link..

2006-08-23 [Zab]: We can message the owner and ask if it's ok to link on the wiki ;)

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: we can.. i'll try to make mattias let us advetise at huggers united.. hopefully he'll let me=P

2006-08-23 [Corazie]: I'll put some Ads in my wiki's :)

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: thanks^^

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: Eh, OMG. I've missed something o.o xD

2006-08-23 [Corazie]: What have you missed?

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: Lot's of stuffs apparently o.O

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: not really..

2006-08-23 [Jeppe]: please spell-check the text if you want to appear like a serious wiki. ;)

2006-08-23 [Zab]: Splel chekk complite :P

I think it looks pretty serious..

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: How can you not call this a serious wiki?
I haven't made my randomisity mark on it.
Then it wouldn't be a serious wiki.
Bloody buggering hell -_-

2006-08-23 [Penfalathion]: Hedda hasn't copyrighted the name Elftown, has he? In case he has we would need is permission for the name. Other then that he can't say that we can or can't go to this meeting, he isn't our guardian and I doubt it says in the agreement you sign when you join that you can't meet other members from Elftown, even if it is to discuss a revolution. And no wiki advertising on the H.U main page Hanne, that goes for this to, but you could always go to H.U. Other Wikis.

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: I doubt [Hedda] would have a problem with it anyway o.O

2006-08-23 [Paz]: Unless we swarm his house :B

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: Oh yah, he'd complain then xD

2006-08-23 [Penfalathion]: Yeah, it won't hurt him in anyway, unless we make it a terrorist gathering in the name of Elftown and media starts linking Hedda to secret organisations and such ^_^

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: xD Like we would ever do that! >_> <_< :O

2006-08-23 [Penfalathion]: O_o I might do it.

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: You might? :O

2006-08-23 [Paz]: Uh uh O_o Make sure Bush doesn't hear you... shhh... he might go kamikaze XD
But I think swarming Hedda's house would be hilarious xD

2006-08-23 [Zab]: We should have the gathering and then take a tourist trip to Heddas house! :D

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: Or Blair XD
We could all pile him and make him give us badges for the hell of it XD

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: noooho.. no swarming.. if you all want this to be so pro there's noooo swarming anyone

2006-08-23 [Paz]: Yes! XD "Give us more badges!" I need to beat my amt. on elf12 anyways x3
Maybe we could mosh him across the floor and out the door! :P

2006-08-23 [Zab]: nooo! We'll just walk in his garden and take photos through the windows..x)

2006-08-23 [Little Red Ridinghood]: im just gonna sitt over here and observe you.....o.O

2006-08-23 [Zab]: XD! You don't wanna join? aww (I want more badges too! O_O *shift eyes* XD

2006-08-23 [Paz]: Like a stalker? XD Ohhh... Hedda's eating! *click click* (wants a purtty eagle badgey *whistles*)

2006-08-23 [Zab]: XD (nevermind the badge..just give me the privs x)

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: We're going to blackmail [Hedda]? :O

2006-08-23 [Zab]: No..we're just going to find his house and stalk him..>_>

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: I wanna blackmail him ;-;

2006-08-23 [Zab]: aww....*pets* ok..

2006-08-23 [Paz]: *does a dance for mayor privs XD* Blackmail is illegal dear squee... but stalking isn't (as long as he never finds out)

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: ...I'll just have to make do ;-; xD

2006-08-23 [Zab]: XD

2006-08-23 [Penfalathion]: Search for him on Http://www.eniro.se , though not under the name Hedda >_< and you'll get his adress and possibly phone number, if it isn't secret.

2006-08-23 [Paz]: Ahh XD I can't read it!

2006-08-23 [Penfalathion]: It's in swedish, ofcourse, since he's swedish.

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: Neither can I ;-;

2006-08-23 [Penfalathion]: n00bs xD

2006-08-23 [sequeena_rae]: Cheeky bugger :P

2006-08-23 [EmeraldGrizzly]: You gotta go to yahoo and look up translator programs, and you should find a few free/safe downloads: then you'll be able to read it :)

2006-08-23 [Paz]: I know a couple words from German at least :P *spanks*